As a poor JW pioneer I scraped by as a way of life
As pioneers, we relied on Jehovah to provide. But Jehovah can't rely on Jehovah to provide... that would be crazy! So Jehovah has to rely on the dollars of his sheeple:
i would say that if god or jehovah or any other named or nameless god needs money then he/she/it is not much of a god.
as a poor jw pioneer i scraped by as a way of life serving a god i could not know, see or sense in any way but i swallowed the biblical dogma and recalled that the birds of the air neither toiled nor sowed but were provided for.. so for goodness sake...why is the jw org so concerned with keeping, promoting or downright snatching as much money as they can from the sheep?.
is it a sign that jehovah has disinherited them?
As a poor JW pioneer I scraped by as a way of life
As pioneers, we relied on Jehovah to provide. But Jehovah can't rely on Jehovah to provide... that would be crazy! So Jehovah has to rely on the dollars of his sheeple:
http://chrisfugue.tumblr.com/ weirdly fascinating lett take 2 (sorry for 1st error)
CrazyFace Lett! Chuckled at this one...
i recently heard angelo catanzaro, a rather prominent figure in the organization .. a long-time district overseer and a favorite of knorr's, died recently.
there was some indication that he and his wife figured out ttatt in their latter years and turned "apostate"... .
does anyone out there know what happened to them?
Angelo had been a CO/DO forever... all the way back to when they were called "circuit servants" and served my parents' area before they married and before Angelo married. I last saw he and Mary maybe 10 years ago when they were serving up in the Wallkill/Patterson area. I think Mary had a sister living up there that they would stay with and look after on the weekends. He was certainly up in years but still had energy and enthusiasm. At the time, they were talking about going off the road... very soon now. If he had learned TTATT, I didn't see any particular evidence of that, but then, I wasn't looking. I don't know of any other COs with that name.
He had a nephew Jonathan (wife Kathy) Catanzaro, as mentioned in the obituary above, who also was or still is a circuit overseer.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Billy dont forget the bottles after the weekends.
Indeed. In addition to the bottles, the hoppers were often overflowing will all kinds of crap by Monday morning.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
I think CBGB was the only club named by Couch, but he had plenty of other comments about not going to the Village and not going to places where you're using the same door handles and forks as the homos.
Back-rubs and wrestling in your underwear seemed to be sparks that ignited frequent homo roommate orgies, according to Couch's morning worship comments.
It is somewhat obscure, but there was at least one morning worship where Couch went off on not putting trash in the garbage and garbage in the trash. The difference was that ordinary trash was separated from food garbage in the hoppers (hoppers were closets at the end of the hall where rubbish, recyclables, and donated crap were to be put). So if you had a pizza box that was greasy and had some cheese stuck to the lid, did it go in the trash or the garbage? In the garbage.
in the beginning of internet the society was worried about the information published exposing its falsehood.
so, i wonder how many people lost the society on account of forums and web sites like this.
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They lost a lot of elders and servants to Internet porn! But that was back when Internet connected computers had to be in a public area of the home and recorded internet history for the wife and everyone else to examine.
Now that all those brothers have WT-approved tablets and browsers that provide 'private' Internet browsing, they can be hardcore porn addicts and remain pillars in the congregation.
"Honey, I have to stay in my den and work on my talk tonight, so don't disturb me. Do we have any more hand lotion and kleenex for my dry hands and runny nose? And if you hear me shout, 'Oh god, yes!', it will be because I thought of a good illustration finally."
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Morpheus,
Time for more interrogation... if you really were a bethelite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ale8iq3vcw.
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it's the hard knock life - jehovah's witness version.
Love it!
It's time for "Jay Double-U dot org" the Broadway musical!
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.
i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.
it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.
To some degree, I think the decline started around 2000 in some of the things I was in bethel. 9/11 gave the corporation a temporary boost in enthusiasm and numbers. After that, the economic meltdown around 2008 didn't give any real boost to enthusiasm or numbers like I'd thought it might. WT still boasts about increases, but there is the increase in 'anointed' that they don't talk about, and decreases elsewhere that they try to whitewash.
Regarding their "Master Plan", the GB is completely reactionary. These are guys whose master plan was to build their headquarters on a toxic waste site. I think they're going to try to sell the buildings that would make them money and convince the sheeple to drive over to the halls in the low-rent neighborhoods.